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Patrick
08-31-2010, 09:05 AM
I'm going through the PDF manual and I noticed that page 6 of chapter 16 is the exact same page as page 6 of chapter 15 ! (even the header says "DVD 9 Lesson 15 : Henry Ford")

I'm guessing this is an error ?

jthomas353
08-31-2010, 09:13 AM
Hi Patrick,

You are correct about the header. Both of mine also say DVD 9, Lesson 15. My page 6 on the lessons are different tho. Chapt. 15, pg. 6 has pictures of Roy, Salleri, & Mozart as well as Ashley. Chapter 16, page 6 is all Ashley. Anyone else?

I received my TMBG just a couple of weeks ago.

John

TLDTR
08-31-2010, 10:32 AM
In any course the size of TMBG there are going to be some errors - despite the months we spent reviewing/testing, etc. - and we count on our users to point them out so we can correct them, which we will do. A new .pdf of the book will be posted this month (September), so if you find any other errors/irregularities in the immediate future, let us know!
Thanks,
Ed.

Patrick
08-31-2010, 12:04 PM
Hi Patrick,

You are correct about the header. Both of mine also say DVD 9, Lesson 15. My page 6 on the lessons are different tho. Chapt. 15, pg. 6 has pictures of Roy, Salleri, & Mozart as well as Ashley. Chapter 16, page 6 is all Ashley. Anyone else?
John

Hmm, I think I was confused. I would swear that both pages were exact the same (Ashley with a boat at the background) but after looking again, only the header seems to be wrong.

Patrick
08-31-2010, 12:07 PM
In any course the size of TMBG there are going to be some errors - despite the months we spent reviewing/testing, etc. - and we count on our users to point them out so we can correct them, which we will do. A new .pdf of the book will be posted this month (September), so if you find any other errors/irregularities in the immediate future, let us know!
Thanks,
Ed.

n/p

I found another one :Chapter 15 page 2 (header is Lesson 13)

when I have some more time (maybe tomorrow) I'll have a closer look at the entire book.

Patrick
09-01-2010, 07:31 AM
I had a quick look through the book (the headers only) and here are the ones I've found :

DVD 1 Lesson 2 page 8 (says lesson 1)
DVD 2 Lesson 4 page 7 (says lesson 3)
DVD 5 Lesson 9 page 3 (says lesson 8)
DVD 9 Lesson 15 page 2 (says DVD 8 lesson 13)
DVD 9 Lesson 16 page 6 (says lesson 15)

Then there is some cosmetics

CHAPTER 20 color is dark gray on black (not good readable).

Finally, and this is just a thought,
Did you think of adding some kind of Index to the book ? so it might be easier to find certain subjects (I guess more important if you use the book to look-up and not together with the DVD lessons).
But that's just a thought.

SilverFlame46
09-01-2010, 09:43 PM
A new .pdf of the book will be posted this month (September), so if you find any other errors/irregularities in the immediate future, let us know!
Thanks,
Ed.

Ed, would it be possible to include an index of the updates (changes) with the new .pdf of the book? If so, this would help those that purchased the hard copy of the book to keep the hard copy current also. Printing only the pages that need to be updated and inserting them into the hard copy.

JeffB
09-01-2010, 11:26 PM
Ed, would it be possible to include an index of the updates (changes) with the new .pdf of the book? If so, this would help those that purchased the hard copy of the book to keep the hard copy current also. Printing only the pages that need to be updated and inserting them into the hard copy.

I second that motion. :)

Thanks for your hard work

TLDTR
09-02-2010, 02:01 PM
You guys are our editors, and we're so grateful, not only that you're so observant, but that you care. The result will be that TMBG will get better and better. We will, of course, follow your suggestions. Don't worry, nothing can possibly go worng!
Thanks!
Ed.

Patrick
09-03-2010, 12:22 AM
YDon't worry, nothing can possibly go wrong!
Ah, Famous last words :D

I once "heard" someone say : "You cannot make something "idiot proof" because once you do, the world will create a better idiot".

but I have NO IDEA why that should apply here (maybe it's time to get some sleep :rolleyes:)

Patrick
09-07-2010, 09:17 AM
I have another book related request which I hope you will be able to include with the upcomming update of the TMBG handbook :

I'm looking at the Major Scales in Lesson 2 page 3 (the music and tab notation) but IMHO it's a bit small.
I use a music stand (I printed the book because I find it better then on a PC screen AND less strain for the eyes) and It's pretty hard to see the notes.

The sizes of these notations vary in the book and I think having the same size as Figure 1 on page 3 or Figure 2 on page 4 (still lesson 2) is the ideal size.

Now what I'm asking is not to rework the entire book, but for example to include a seperate chapter/PDF that ONLY has the music notations on them without the text.
So this would make 1 page with the Major Scales in the First Position - Flats and 1 page with the Major Scales in the First Position - Sharps.

If you could do this for ALL the notations in the manual (all the same size) I think it would be a great help for people.

Also, one of the advantages I think this would have is that you could call this PDF the "Workbook" and people can print it (there should be no images or anything on those pages) without needing to print the entire book (this will save Ink and Paper).

People could then just read the ebook on their PC's and see the DVD's and use the "workbook" to "play-along" with Ray (I'm trying to include some basic sight-reading in my first lessons so I'll be better prepared to tackle this in upcoming lessons).

Someone who would want to use TABS can use the Tabs and someone who wants to use the standard notation could black-out the tabs (if they want) without needing to use a permanent marker on the book (specially if it's a hard-copy of the book).

I think some standard layout would be ideal (like when you use GuitarPro to transcribe a song (and you can include credits and copyright information).

If they are sorted by chapter/page the student can even choose if they want to put it in the book (between the pages where the original is printed in the book) or in the front or back so they have easy access to all of them without needing to search through the book.

Well I hope this makes sense and is understandable, Else I typed this entire message for nothing ;);)

Elmeaux
09-07-2010, 10:12 AM
You can do a copy-and-paste thing with the musical pieces and transfer them to WORD, to be printed and used as stand alone documents. Then you can embiggen them to fit the whole page, turn the layout sideways, adjust the fit in many different ways.

Not all the diagrams are "grabbable", but here's how to find the ones that are.

Open the book on your computer, go to the piece of music you want to try, then left-click ONCE on the image. It's grabbable if the image turns blue. If it does, right-click and choose COPY IMAGE. Then open your word processor and paste it onto the blank page. Grab the edges of the picture and resize as needed. You can adjust margins, turn the image to landscape etc...

Makes nice copies to put on your music stand.

Patrick
09-07-2010, 11:43 AM
Sounds like so good advise.

only thing I would add as advise for others who think of using this is to set "keep aspect ratio" when resizing the images (or they might start to look funny).

TLDTR
09-07-2010, 12:42 PM
I LOVE that word, Elmeaux! Can we copyright it? The thought of making a standardized pdf of the music is a great one, Patrick, and we have decided to do as you suggest. Please don't hold your breath, because we're already up to our earlobes around here, but we will get to it. Please feel free to prompt us with a reminder in a couple of months. Meantime, Elmeaux's suggestions are a great work-around.
Thank you!
Ed.

Elmeaux
09-07-2010, 03:46 PM
I LOVE that word, Elmeaux! Can we copyright it?


No can-do, Daahhhhling. It's from The Simpsons. I've been using it for years and larfing each time.

It's the Springfield town motto. "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."

Google it. (hee hee) :D

jthomas353
09-07-2010, 06:43 PM
Elmeaux,

That was too funny. I was wondering where you came up with that word.

BTW, great tip for the music. I'll definitely use it until the full version becomes available. These old eyes aren't what they used to be.

Thanks,
John

Elmeaux
09-07-2010, 07:40 PM
Elmeaux,

That was too funny. I was wondering where you came up with that word.


It's the opposite of "ensmallen."


A churlish spirit ensmallens the largest man. :p

Patrick
09-08-2010, 08:47 AM
The thought of making a standardized pdf of the music is a great one, Patrick, and we have decided to do as you suggest. Please don't hold your breath, because we're already up to our earlobes around here, but we will get to it. Please feel free to prompt us with a reminder in a couple of months.

Don't worry, I don't expect this to happen overnight. And it's better to give it some work so the end result is good then to do it quickly and only half.

About the reminder, do you think january 2011 is a good time ? IF you didn't release it before that it.

I'll set a reminder (for myself) so I don't forget to remind you ;)
If you feel it will take some more time, I can always change it to a later date.

And while we're on the subject.
Maybe you can consider something like a "road-map" (if you don't use it already). You can use it internally or make it public (whatever you want) to keep track of what's to be done and by what deadline.

For example the roadmap could look like this :

September 2010 : Planned release of the Revision 1 of the TMBG Book
October 2010 : Chat with Roy
November 2010 : collection of MP3 files (lesson MP3's for study with MP3 Player) should be completely uploaded.
February 2011 : Release of the Teach Me Lead Guitar Course.
...
and so on.

I've seen this on other corporate website and it's a great tool both for the developers and the community, since it shows what you are working on and on what timeframe it is (it also provides some assurance that you are still working on it).

But as with all these suggestions, I'm just throwing up some ideas (had a few "Brainstorm" lessons years ago :)

Elmeaux
09-08-2010, 10:38 AM
October 2010 : Chat with Roy



Yes. I like this idea. As long as more of you come to the room. I imagine Roy's getting bored with simply listening to me yammer away.

Patrick
09-08-2010, 11:02 AM
Yes. I like this idea. As long as more of you come to the room. I imagine Roy's getting bored with simply listening to me yammer away.

I cannot promise anything (different timezone and weird working hours).
And it was just an example :p

TLDTR
09-08-2010, 11:34 AM
Great idea Patrick. We will come up with a schedule, with the caveat that it is written in clay, rather than concrete! Also, a January reminder would be fine. We should have the .pdf up by that time, and will surely need a kick in the pants if it's not!
Thanks!
Ed.